NZ Mosque Massacre - Full Footage
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VetUUoody the Junkyard Dog
Reply fail, but this should be near the top:This is not entertainment. This is cold blooded murder of human beings and we are, or should be, better than that. It is my opinion that this should be removed and that we should disallow graphic images of murder just as rape and animal cruelty are not permitted.
ZuckerFreeeggs
Not as entertainment but as an educational tool. Remember slavery and the 6000000????And the fact we can’t even joke about that shit without losing our jobs or getting kicked off the internet. It’s a slippery slope man... just saying
ZuckerFreeeggs
If people knew I was a white supremact tranny porn/gore/Alex Jones watching fat girl/midget fucker I’d lose my job and fucking go on welfare
Vettruckerhatjones the Golden
people are always gonna gravitate to this stuff, that doesn't mean we approve of it
Vettruckerhatjones the Golden
sometimes i still get sick watching vids like these, which is how i know i still have a line
ZuckerFreeeggs
No it keeps us from being desensitized to this shit. That vid of the sluts in Morocco getting hacked up made me sick. This one was tooMuch like a video game which I think is the problem.
ZuckerFreeeggs
If it was high def cctv footage it would probably get a different reaction but hey check this stupid shit out https://i.imgur.com/zO17OqG.jpg
Vettruckerhatjones the Golden
yeah, don't be edgy on the internet if you live in the UK, fucking faggots
Vettruckerhatjones the Golden
so grateful to be American sometimes even if parts of it stink
Vettruckerhatjones the Golden
he's probably fine as long as he pays his knife tax, tv tax, posting butthole on internet tax, etc
VetBono
@UUoody, I don't believe hosting this type of content creates any extremists as long as we can talk and joke about it. For me it's solely a question of legality.Murders cannot be "produced" in the same way that harmful porn or dogfighting videos can. They can't do it over and over to sell to an audience of actual sick fucks. That's the important distinction I make.
Murder just ... happens. Sometimes on camera. Usually because of something highly personal. Posting it online after-the-fact doesn't change anything.
VetBarret
Discussing with fregs, its like playing videogames on training mode, you just skip that and go straight for easy/normal.
VetBarret
Will just ask for clarification on this part instead"No it keeps us from being desensitized to this shit."
VetTigeriger
Censorship of any kind is fascism. (To paraphrase George Carlin) there is what is, and how it is presented “through normal channels”. Rare is information presented in its raw format, and presented without bias. Rare still is the ability to absorb that information with understanding and context. UUoody clearly can, but this is entertainment as we are all just spectators in this shit show.
VetBarret
One thing I noticed while trolling around on various social media platforms the last 2 days, is that the more you try to make these things hard to find, the more the conspiracy theorists on the right think that its all fake false flag and censorship (yes i can complain about the right too). Which only serves to make them more radicalized.I'll take the criticism that its not entertainment, but I do disagree that it should be removed.
I actually wish that mainstream media would not only air this in its fullness on their websites, but also the other slaughters done by ISIS and muslims all across the globe. Because shushing it or pretending it doesn't happen, is basically what they do, and that's how you end up with someone like this guy in the first place.
VetBono
Yeah... I can appreciate that Woody finds it distasteful. Sometimes I do too. But it's reality. If you think something is particularly brutal, don't watch it.
VetBarret
Its honestly a bit unsettling how many people seem to automatically assume the whole thing is a hoax, before they even know any of the details. That's their default setting. Even now after everything that's out there. And you're automatically the enemy if you even question them.I think the social media platforms banning people so they have to go form their own echo chambers is a really bad idea.
Vettruckerhatjones the Golden
"if you dont like it dont watch it" is the pussy way out, i watch everything i can, even cultural enrichment videos
Vettruckerhatjones the Golden
if i have to sit through that, everyone should have to watch Tom Pearl and cartel executions
VetBono
Restarting site in a few, so an update can take hold. It involves removal of all cultural enrichment music
ZuckerFreeeggs
What I meant was if we aren’t allowed to see it we don’t know what it’s like. I mean we already know bad things are going on all over the world ,it’s not like the 1800s when no one really knew what it was like or had any idea what people were capable of until they had to come face to face with it ( like the civil war in the states or war anywhere for that matter) , but nowadays we all know this happens daily but have no real gauge as to how horrible it really is. Watching videos like this brings the world into your living room or dingy piss bottle filled basement or how ever half of you live... anyways my point is if we don’t see it, it never really happened it’s just another news story to forget about in a day or two because people have the attention span of a gold fish from an overload of modern information. It brings a factor of human suffering into what was just another story. I’m sure there are people who whacked off to it but everyone I know was affected by this no matter their ideology’s or religion or whatever they said while shit posting on the internet.
ZuckerFreeeggs
I haven’t heard anyone say it was a hoax and never happened. If anything He was probably a mentally ill faggot who got coaxed into it by a shadow intel group for reasons they know and we don’t....but honestly this was organic and it was super friendly fire after reading his shit. He was a super left wing nihilistic faggot who just wanted to make the ones he hated most look bad
ZuckerFreeeggs
Not until you explain why. Just because I said shadowy intel group... like that doesn’t happen?
ZuckerFreeeggs
Look at it as one long paragraph.... and a way to piss you off without even trying which makes my cock hard.
VetBarret
The second part to anger me is that you are the first person on the site yesterday to instantly decide that it has to be a "false flag" operation, based on your vast detective skills, so you are exactly the kind of person I'm talking about.
ZuckerFreeeggs
Read what I said in the first extremely long paragraph, and have a good point as to where I’m wrong.
VetBarret
The third part being that you seem to think watching gore and death videos is what keeps us from being desensitized, which seems opposite of any logical reality. You could say that it makes you more "woke" about the world or whatever, but it stops us from getting desensitized? Come on.
ZuckerFreeeggs
Dude you can’t tell me the wholeThing wasn’t fishy as fuck from the get go. Just because i said it was a false flag didn’t take away from the fact it happened. And now that more and more of the story is coming out. Idk i was probably right. Governments don’t have to be involved in a false flag, this dude was acting like someone he wasn’t to create a certain set of reactions. Everyone saw that from the very beginning. But god damn his shooting and maneuvering skills were on pro point for someone who didn’t have any formal training that anyone knew of.
ZuckerFreeeggs
And why are we only hearing about the one dude when there were 4 people arrested? I can’t find one story about the other folks involved. Or the other mosque that was shot up.
ZuckerFreeeggs
Desensitized probably wasn’t the right wording, but with all of the fake death and what not we see on tv and other media as a whole, people have been desensitized. It isn’t until they see reality that they get sickened. Even then the way this guy made it look like a fps almost completely took away from the totality of the video.In other words people need to see the real thing to shake their fake version of what it’s like. which is why war videos, murder videos, and accident videos actually help in a way. It shows how fucked up things really are and probably keeps people from putting themselves into those situations knowing the world is not a safe space and bad things do happen in real life.
There I made proper paragraphs... ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED
VetBarret
Now you are making more sense, but only because I explained what you meant to you.
VetTigeriger
For the most part eggs is wrong.Mainstream media portrayals of events are for the most part propaganda. The bias viewpoint that pushes an agenda, or paints an action as something it isn’t. As in this case ‘it’s an act of terrorism” which it isn’t, it’s just murder. It seeks to influence popular thought on what a required perception needs to be. It’s a distraction of what actually is.
People post this stuff for entertainment, to be edgy, for some fleeting self validation. It spreads to conspiracy sites to further distract people with bullshit theories like false flag attacks.
What you are (again for the most part) left with is several narrow pointed, diluted, and ultimately worthless viewpoints arguing about which is correct. Further distraction, and the population forced to choose between several bias examples of the original event. Something snaps in someone’s head and shit like this happens, the cycle repeats. Nobody looks to the cause, because all that is portrayed are the symptoms.
VetBarret
The only thing I disagree with is that I think its terrorism. Because he planned it for 2 years, and part of his goal was to hopefully scare muslims into not immigrating.Terrorism: "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."
If that wasn't terrorism then I don't know what is. Had he just snapped one day and spontaneously did that, it wouldn't be terrorism.
VetTigeriger
i Think planning has nothing to do with it. It’s better if you do, but not a requirement of terrorism. Also if he did it in the name of white power that’s not coercion of any government, there was no do this or I will shoot up a mosque. He just hated Muslims so killed some. That’s racially motivated murder, not terrorism. If it is terrorism then any and every violent act against a civilian must be classified as terrorism. For example:Civilians suffering in Venezuela as a direct result of economic and political sanctions instigated by The USA is terrorism
A proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia, Trump does a billion dollar arms deal in full knowledge the Saudi’s are bombing civilians = terrorism
Bono’s onesie picture being inflicted on the denizens of MZ, = terrorism
VetBono
I dunno man, it's hard to hear the word "manifesto" and not think "terrorist" ... he wanted to sew discord and spread fear. He had an agenda, even if it was incoherent at times.
VetBarret
If I went to town tomorrow and killed some mussies because i just hate mussies, it would not be terrorism. If my motivation was to create fear and discord among mussies, and hopefully keep them out of my town, then i think its terrorism.
VetTigeriger
Maybe I’ve missed something, I’m just not seeing the coercion element. In this case his manifesto was just what made sense to him. If he attempted to get the manifesto ratified into law, and a mosque an hour would explode until that happened, I’ll concede it’s terrorism.
VetBarret
He does talk like he's not alone (which he isn't), and that there will be more attacks (which I'm sure there will be), and he did expect them to change the law, which they are working on doing.
Zuckerbamford
NZ guy was a terrorist. no debate. most mass shooters are not terrorists since they are just crazy fucks who murder without discrimination. but this one was a terrorist.
VetTigeriger
“The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against individuals or property in an attempt to coerce or intimidate governments or societies to achieve political, religious or ideological objectives".Did this guy attempt to coerce the NZ government? Beyond sending a manifesto what are the motives ? Reason? Aims ? What is this guys political agenda and how did he use coercion of the government to achieve those goals?
So far he has only been arrested and charged with murder, not terrorism. You would think that would be charge number 1.
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Vetseverum
Yep. He definitely banged Aleister Crowley.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLG1ys2CGcI
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severum
On another note.....why was everybody dead or pretending to be before he even got there????Interesting...
VetBarret
The same thing happened during the Breivik attacks. Everyone would just lay down or sit still and wait for their turn, so he could walk around on the island and shoot them one by one. Word spreads fast.
VetTigeriger
They should do a replay, drop him off fully armed with 1000 feminists and people who classify their gender as being on a ‘scale’.
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VetFredGspotSanford
This should happen at all churches. Fucking religious assholes fuck everything up for normal people
NoobDarkEmperorMSOG
Absolutely disgusting that you think this way. These are innocent people. This is terrorism. No one should have to experience this.
NoobDarkEmperorMSOG
You realize what we are commenting on right? About as serious as it gets. This mass shooting trend is getting worse and it freaks me the fuck out.
ZuckerJamesTKirk
Don’t stfu me you fucking pansy. I’m not disagreeing with you, but this is probably the wrong forum to whine about mass shootings. There are probably at least two people here capable of some shoot-ups. You’ll set them over the top.
NoobDarkEmperorMSOG
Someone has to be a voice of reason. Psychopath echo chambers like Gab create violence. Sometimes planting seeds of thought can make a difference. If you know anyone in your life who is a potential shooter you should talk to them or report that shit. Life is going to really suck if none of us can go out in public without fear of life suddenly ending. Fuck that!
NoobDarkEmperorMSOG
Technology is just going to make this kind of terrorism worse. We need an Elon Musk of national security.
VetBarret
Its just FaggotFag again. That guy never tires of making alts.also I noticed he didn't stfu the idea of shooting up buzzfeed....
also, lol Dykche.
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Barret
So I've been reading a bit of his manifesto, and figured out that the whole reason he did things like say Subscribe to Pewdiepie, only used guns and no explosives or other things he admittedly could have done, is because he purposely want the media to do stupid shit like try to attack Pewdiepie, he wants to give the anti-gun crowd fuel. He wants there to be as much fighting and divide as possible because he hopes that will help his anti immigration cause.So he's basically the human manifestation of Buzzfeed. Trash.
ZuckerFreeeggs
He said Candice Owens was his biggest influence lol dude this shit makes no sense at all. like the neon nazi patches and shit on his body armor... Larping at its finest.
VetBarret
It was an interesting read, he has a sense of humor. He said he learned how to use guns and kill by playing Spyro 3, he put the "what did you say to me you little bitch?" meme in there. Such a troll.
NoobKindredCanine
Im curious about where I would find the manifesto, sounds like an interesting read to delve into what actually drove him to do something so shitty.
Noobignoranceisbliss
@Barret. So, did you got the approval of the wevmaster to share the manifesto ? I would also like to have a go at it. Thanks.
VetBarret
https://katana17.wordpress.com/2019/03/15/the-great-replacement-manifesto-of-new-zealand-mosque-shooter-mar-2019/#tgr-57
NoobDarkEmperorMSOG
The problem with manifestos by people like this is they're rarely truly coherent or sensical because you have to be fucking insane to barge into a religious gathering and shoot everyone dead.
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ZuckerT0llb00thwillie
I saw several moving vehicular violations as well the obvious crimes committed
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VetBono
I stopped trying to push the weekly meme thread for the same reason that people put down old dogs
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VetBILLYMAYSHERE
since when did writing stupid messages on your weaponry become a thing..people and their moronic follower ways
NoobDarkEmperorMSOG
Oh good thanks for reporting the "revenge is coming" terrorist to Twitter that'll definitely stop him from doing something terrible.
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DarkEmperorMSOG
I would say it is good to laugh but this is too much. This shit is only going to get worse. Be afraid.
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ZuckerMick420
,* multi universe. Oyster, you're a grey, I'm a Nordic...can't we just show the ants(human race) we are here? We refuel from their sun to fuel our trsnsport , do we really have to keep hiding?? . I hate this texting shit, much prefer telkenisis for coms.
ZuckerMick420
If you believe that Nord's are fake, that's one fuck you give. Zero does not exist.
ZuckerMick420
Serve rum, aka( MD), whatever your human/online persona may be, remember, or forget, LemonLemonLemon.. I shall not engage with inatimate objects from this time forward.
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ignoranceisbliss
@Barret. Did you get the approval of the webmaster to share the manifesto ? I would also like to have a go at it. Thanks.
VetBarret
He sent a picture of himself blowing cum bubbles out of his ass, I'm not sure what that means but I'll get back to you.
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truckerhatjones the Golden
After re reading this entire thread... this fucker made me literally laugh out loud
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